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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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Dave B wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:37 pm No wonder no one likes engineers.
That's not true, the average engineer has 0.6375 friends! :lol: Occasionally I even have slightly more than that!
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daway8 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:44 pm
Dave B wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:37 pm No wonder no one likes engineers.
That's not true, the average engineer has 0.6375 friends! :lol: Occasionally I even have slightly more than that!
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daway8 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:44 pm
Dave B wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:37 pm No wonder no one likes engineers.
That's not true, the average engineer has 0.6375 friends! :lol: Occasionally I even have slightly more than that!
LOL, though gotta question sig figs here, not sure what friend measuring instrument has that kind of resolution.
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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Dave B wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:14 am
daway8 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:44 pm
Dave B wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:37 pm No wonder no one likes engineers.
That's not true, the average engineer has 0.6375 friends! :lol: Occasionally I even have slightly more than that!
LOL, though gotta question sig figs here, not sure what friend measuring instrument has that kind of resolution.
Ouch. All of you. :wink:
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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Here's my belated comeback in defense of engineers in response to:
Dave B wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:37 pm Taking something visceral, wild, and experiential, and reducing it to a schedule that must be followed down to the minute is the most engineering thing ever.
Ah, but a starting point makes everything more dramatic. How many millions over the years have been put on the edge of their seats by these words:

"On your marks... Get set... GO!!!"

If instead everyone just went out and ran whenever they felt like it, that would be, well, rather lame to watch.

Or how about the visceral anticipation of the crowds gathered around a towering rocket about to burst into the sky on a bed of flames - where everyone present joins in unison saying:
"3... 2... 1... LIFTOFF!!!"

Just because you define a precise starting and ending moment on the calendar doesn't in any way detract from how wild and visceral the experiences in between will be.

It just simply says: Game On!

In fact, if you wait until 2:47pm on Wednesday December 21 before starting your hike, you might just find it to be a little extra wild and visceral of an experience as you're forced to descend in the dark...
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daway8 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 3:42 pm Here's my belated comeback in defense of engineers in response to:
Dave B wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:37 pm Taking something visceral, wild, and experiential, and reducing it to a schedule that must be followed down to the minute is the most engineering thing ever.
Ah, but a starting point makes everything more dramatic. How many millions over the years have been put on the edge of their seats by these words:

"On your marks... Get set... GO!!!"

If instead everyone just went out and ran whenever they felt like it, that would be, well, rather lame to watch.

Or how about the visceral anticipation of the crowds gathered around a towering rocket about to burst into the sky on a bed of flames - where everyone present joins in unison saying:
"3... 2... 1... LIFTOFF!!!"

Just because you define a precise starting and ending moment on the calendar doesn't in any way detract from how wild and visceral the experiences in between will be.

It just simply says: Game On!

In fact, if you wait until 2:47pm on Wednesday December 21 before starting your hike, you might just find it to be a little extra wild and visceral of an experience as you're forced to descend in the dark...
Spoken like a truly engineered poet! :mrgreen:
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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CaptainSuburbia wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:34 am This would be cool except not everyone follows the same rules for checking that winter box.
Yeah. Heck, we have people who check peak boxes who turned around 1/2 a mile below the summit, or didn't even set foot on the peak.
So if it were possible to have the snowflake appear only if you entered the hike on a peak within a certain date, that would atleast weed out the folks who just think snow on ground = winter.
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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RyGuy wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:05 am
CaptainSuburbia wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:34 am This would be cool except not everyone follows the same rules for checking that winter box.
Yeah. Heck, we have people who check peak boxes who turned around 1/2 a mile below the summit, or didn't even set foot on the peak.
So if it were possible to have the snowflake appear only if you entered the hike on a peak within a certain date, that would atleast weed out the folks who just think snow on ground = winter.
I hear ya!

This morning I changed the Update Checklist -> Peak page to force users to select a date that must be within calendar winter. It doesn't change what people have done in the past by just checking off the winter option but any future checklist updates will have this new functionality, even people who have previously checked "winter" and have not entered a date will now be forced to do so if they update the checklist -> peak details.

Note: For the date selection, I set "winter" from 12/21 to 3/20. I did not get it down to a time level nor have I accommodated for the occasional years when the day differs, yet.
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osprey wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 4:23 pm Bill:
Each peak page has the number of member ascents.
Would you consider adding to this the number of member calendar winter ascents?
Good idea, I'm working on this next...

UPDATE: Done!
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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BillMiddlebrook wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:56 am
RyGuy wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:05 am
CaptainSuburbia wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:34 am This would be cool except not everyone follows the same rules for checking that winter box.
Yeah. Heck, we have people who check peak boxes who turned around 1/2 a mile below the summit, or didn't even set foot on the peak.
So if it were possible to have the snowflake appear only if you entered the hike on a peak within a certain date, that would atleast weed out the folks who just think snow on ground = winter.
I hear ya!

This morning I changed the Update Checklist -> Peak page to force users to select a date that must be within calendar winter. It doesn't change what people have done in the past by just checking off the winter option but any future checklist updates will have this new functionality, even people who have previously checked "winter" and have not entered a date will now be forced to do so if they update the checklist -> peak details.

Note: For the date selection, I set "winter" from 12/21 to 3/20. I did not get it down to a time level nor have I accommodated for the occasional years when the day differs, yet.
That's awesome! Thank you, Bill!
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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My pleasure!

Someday I'll make the checklist update process more flexible to allow entering all details (including dates) for each individual climb.
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Re: Calendar Winter Ascents

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Thank you Bill.
Appreciation for your work in doing this.
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